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Weather
the pool is real, the ladder is not

2026-08-21 · three conclusions in this category, two of them negative

Weather has a genuine attraction: money is paid out daily and participants are relatively unsophisticated. I ran a real-money line here and checked two arbitrage paths. The conclusions compress to one sentence: the pool is real, the arbitrage is not, and "the participants are unsophisticated" is not a reason to bet.

1What the category looks like

ItemDetail
Typical boardwhich band a city's daily high temperature falls into
Shapea ladder: a dozen mutually exclusive, exhaustive bands
Resolutiona named weather station's official reading
To establishwhich station, which period, and whether revisions count

That last row is specific to this category: meteorological data gets revised after the fact. Confirm before betting whether settlement uses the first published value or a revised one — this cannot be inferred, only read from the board's terms.

2Conclusion one: the pool is real

This one is affirmative and independently checkable: batched transfers at a fixed daily time, enumerable on-chain. You need not take anyone's word for it — go and count.

But "money exists" and "you can get it" differ. The pool is split by quote quality, so more participants means less each. And the scoring formula specifically pays for tightness: closer to mid scores higher, with quadratic decay and zero beyond the board's maximum spread.

Quoting atRewardBad-fill $
join best×1×1
−2¢×0.26×0.29

So "quote deeper, stay safe, still collect" is structurally impossible: the safety is real, and it costs three-quarters of the reward.

3Conclusion two: ladder arbitrage is not real

The ladder rule holds: a dozen mutually exclusive, exhaustive bands must sum to $1. So "they add to 0.95, buy the set" looks free.

I checked through two unrelated data paths. Both netted to zero.

Why it cannot be collectedWorse on ladders because
Cold bands unbuyablemore bands means more very cold ones — and you need them all
Fees on every lega dozen bands, a dozen taker fees
Minimum 5 shares × Nthe minimum viable trade scales with band count
Unpaired is nakeda dozen legs — one missing and the set does not exist

Full account in ladder arbitrage.

4Conclusion three: public forecasts leave nothing either

"Forecasts are public, free and accurate, so compare them with the quotes for an edge" — the first three premises hold and the conclusion does not follow.

public information is not an informational advantage pricing is set by the most diligent few, not the average participant

Measured: the 12-to-24-hour band is fully priced, with nothing left. (I reached no separate conclusion on other horizons, so none is stated.) See public forecasts vs weather prices.

5What I lost here

I ran a liquidity-provision line and archived it at about −$210. The cause was neither execution nor luck:

The "star wallet" I copied was already dead

When I took it apart I was looking at its past performance. Leaderboards do not tell you whether an approach still works. July's star was no longer valid in August.

The verification step I skipped was one question: "is it still making money now?" That is what the $210 bought. Full account in weather LP.

6How to read this category

ClaimReality
"participants are unsophisticated, so there is opportunity"does not follow — a few sophisticated participants suffice to set the price
"there is a pool, so it pays"split by score, and you must net off the bad fills
"the ladder must sum to $1"true, but the spread sits in the band you cannot buy
"the forecasts are accurate"true, and everyone can see them

Three of four are "premise true, conclusion false" — which is this category's characteristic shape: every one of its attractions is genuine, and none converts directly into money.

7One line to keep

The money in weather is real (the pool pays daily, verifiable on-chain), but I checked three routes to it and rejected all three. The line worth taking away: "the participants here are unsophisticated" is not a reason to bet — pricing is never set by the average.

EvidenceCheck it yourself

The pool batched transfers at a fixed daily time, enumerable on-chain. See the reward pool.
Scoring and step-back cost quadratic decay measured from mid, zero beyond the maximum spread; stepping back 2¢ takes reward to ×0.26 and bad fills to ×0.29.
Ladder arbitrage two unrelated data paths, each run once, both netting to zero.
Public forecasts the 12–24 hour band is fully priced; no separate conclusion for other horizons.
My LP line archived at about −$210; the primary cause was that the wallet I referenced had itself already stopped working.
Resolution source a named station's official reading; whether revisions count must be read per board.
Checked 2026-07 to 2026-08.

NextWhere to go

E · MARKETS
Weather LP: the −$210 in full
C · ARBITRAGE
Ladder arbitrage
C · ARBITRAGE
Public forecasts vs weather prices
B · REBATES
The LP scoring formula
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